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LongIslandEddie
help me...
Somehow, I was fortunate enough to be able to contribute this tile rather "Trouble-Free". Since it's acceptance, I've attempted to submit other tiles yet receive a message telling me that 42 pixels is not an acceptable file! Is there anyone out there who can set me straight as to what is going wrong? I am an insomniac who loves to fiddle with the computer and your web page has opened up a new vista for me to fritter away the hours between midnight and dawn, here on the bitmap highway...
root88
Re: help me...
Currently you have drawn 9 tiles and uploaded the "Draw Here" tile 5 times. If this continues, I'll have to remove you from the quilts. This is not merely because it is a hassle for the admins, it makes neighboring tiles visible for other users to cheat from. If it happens at the begining of a quilt, a user that would actually contribute has less chance of having a tile available.
LongIslandEddie
Re: Re: help me...
Oh, is that what that pesky "Save as" button means? WEell, for ever "Drawe Here" tile that I've sent back, there is at least two finished tiles! I think that the problem is in the saving as well a the sending of those files. If I was sending you tile nmo. 5673, I would strike out the "b" on a clone and expect you to receive the artwork that I'd view before sending. Usually, I capture the tile abnd then start mjy work on a -a suffix. As long as I take out the (-a etc. ) suffix, I used to believe that it was the intended tile that got sent through. As of late I realize that I am letting my hard drive, send off the original, by striking out the -a or -b, in the dialogue box... I don't take down tiles (just to disappoint you by a no-show virtue! This incontinuity is a problem which might be better blamed on the Dope rather than the Idiot! My great Aunt said it so succinctly in this manner, : Shit Happens"... Be a LOVE..., send me a list (By number) of my errant tiles, and I swear, I'llgenerate as many aneurisms as any other wayward respondants... Eddie..........
bsumner
ughmmm..just my two cents..
let me start off by saying that i think you are a really good artist. your drawings have very much detail, they show great imagination and i can tell that its something you enjoy to do. you just kinda have to realize what this whole quilt thing is about. blending into the tiles you were given, with intention to have a portion of your picture incorporated into the surrounding tiles by other artists. its all about making one huge art work. dont know if you read it or not, *shrug* but whenever you upload a picture, you have a chance to read a tutorial by essobe.(i belive thats who its from..sorry if i mispelled the name..:) the tutorial goes over mad shizz....its reading, but hey rtfm! right?...keep on drawing those tiles, i look forward to seeing more of your work...(except maybe not another neked, yes i said neked, man with his pecker showing...laf.that wuz funny..)
Night0wl
Why?!
Why do you continue with this?
I've seen your score fluctuate so wildly. One moment your a 6, another a -2. You create some incredible tiles, but you do not incorperate your neighbors. You are given 15 pixels to work with and you stop 3 pixels in. I could recreate your blending methods, and then placing a piece of art in the middle. It's frustrating running into this.
The one tile I've done lately, waiting to see it's neighbors exposed I simply hoped you would not be against my tile, to see what I had done put up against a clashing tile, which reflects on all it's neighbors.
Do you intentionally ruin tiles? Is the shifting of pixels to cause un-even blending done on purpose? Is the sheer lack of continuity caused by you? I certainly hope your just someone who hasn't quite figured out how to play with the group. Because until you do there are some of us who will suffer.
LongIslandEddie
Glass houses...
Hello Ian,
Unless I misread the quilt and the administrators have posted in an incorrect version of your contextual tile, I would'nt do too much bitching about ANYONE'S blending. Where you undertook a tile with three meaty borders, chock full of potential, it appears as if you just took an image of a character with a crown and blapped him in the middle of your square! You left me a half a skull to work with on the bottom, made a half effort at blending the top, ignored adjoining color at the right side and smeared a tad of gray in the lower left side! Then you come to this page and tell me that I am an enigma...Where was your recognition of this quoted fifteen pixel neutral zone in this case? If you hoped that I would not be adjoining your tile, why didn't you deal with the blending of your other two neighboring tiles? Wasn't it YOUR comment, on that particular tile, that refered to your, "sticking to one or two sided tiles" because of your frustration with three sided tiles? How ironic, that you should wish so hard not to have one of my tiles adjoin yours yet, may wind up with four of my tiles abutting your creation!
As to the fluctuation of my scores, this is out of my hands and into the hands of my peers and fellow tilers but if you are keeping a silent scorepad, I vote modestly low on my own creations.Go back to the page of tiles which I've submitted and see whether or not I'm learning before you too accuse or intimate that I am ruining things for others. There, you'll see alot of bum tiles but you'll see both improvement and the willingness to create more than bogus text and muddled art. If you truly are a night owl, why not spend your nights cultivating your own technique rather than taking pot shots and casting aspersions upon others! Why not try something constructive like learning to work with digital images and place a few here on the quilt, that your score (and my own) facilitates? How crass, with just three or four attempts at submitting art to this facility, that you feel "left out" of the currently running photo quilt, an aspiration that, even I (WITH A SCORE WHICH SLIGHTLY EXCEEDS YOURS), do not qualify for. Ian, I'm sorry for your "frustrations" and appologize for being a bad neighbor, as you intimate. Be assured that I am doing nothing intentional except making tiles that seem to be getting better and trying real hard to get along with other members. I don't see this as an impossible task, do you? Again, forgive the suffering that I've caused you and don't be in such a hurry to lob those stones...
love,(AGAPE) Ed...(LIE)
Night0wl
Re: Glass houses...
It's quite tempted to rant here. About the so called "meaty borders" I'll admit the top border was full of potential. But to my left I was given pretty much what my skull left for you, a blob of color.

I do like your rendition of the guy however. "took an image of a character with a crown and blapped him in the middle" I don't know of many people wearing purple crowns with pierced noses.

Do enjoy your tiling LIE. I hope you find out what it takes to create successful tiles. As I said, the art-work is incredible. But your blending, no offence intended, sucks. And little is left to for your neighbors to blend, and if there is perchance something to blend it's chock full of meaningless color, perhaps someone can make use of it.

I also apologies for my crass reply. I how ever will not decieve you, I do not like your methods of blending. It leaves plenty to be desired. Keep up your efforts.
LongIslandEddie
Re: Glass houses, revisited
I too, feel remorse over this running commentary and thus apologize for my stinging remarks. I'll work harder at blending, I promise. Ed
retsbabe
Re: Re: Glass houses, revisited
You worked harder, your tiles improved, your score is in the + :)
I was impressed by your earlier work too..your tiles on there own were great...although blending was an issue. But, I see you've grasped the whole blending thing...now do MORE!!! :)

retsy
LongIslandEddie
Re: Re: Re: Glass houses, revisited
Amy,
Well bless your little heart... Thank you for the lift, I sorta needed it. It puts me in mind of that great old folk song, "it ain't heavy, it's my tile"...
Eddie Martin
tyeddyedeyes
Glass houses, standing ovation.
Actually I too, like your art. The recent tiles I have seen, Gnarled Misery, and especially pearl dance give the neighbors something fun to play with. I was so happy to get the tile to the right of Gnarled Misery, the texture was great to work with. Man, how long you been doin this? You got a lot up and around here on this site.
LongIslandEddie
Re: Glass houses, standing ovation.
Ken,
I like tiles like a boy likes pie... I spend my every waking hour on the computer and even moreso since losing my job, a week after the twin tower's destruction. I found my way to ICE.com and joined this school of the air but as you can see by that portfolio of tiles that stands at the left of my member page, my emergence into these quilts was not an easy step. I began with a poor attitude and a narrow minded point of view, about the hopes for these quilts and the necessity of a learning curve. I considered myself an accomplished computer artist and I jumped in with a "Who could teach me anything" attitude. It didn't take me too long to piss a lot of people off with my sarcasm filled comments and my reaction to their criticisms. I simply got off on the wrong foot, just a bad entry into a good thing. Yes, I have done alot of work but then, I needed alot of work, on my character, on my attitude and on my hand. I am glad and proud to say that there have been some people who were able to see beyond this side of me and chose to work with me in spite of myself. To be honest, I treasure the commentaries even more than the points... Thank you for reaching out to me and for whatever pleasure that my tiles may bring to you... Kind regards, Eddie M.
bsumner
Re: Re: Glass houses, standing ovation.
that has to be one of the best posts yet..*wiping teary eye*
your the best eddie! *bows*
~beth
LongIslandEddie
Re: Re: Re: Glass houses, a standing ovulation.
Gee Beth,
Wanna pass me a Kleenex too? Truthfully, I do appreciate being able to participate on these quilts and the appreciation grows deeper with each passing tile! Recently, I received an invitation to contribute to Whirlwind's new quilt, "Knots" and because of feelings, like yours has given me, I gladly accepted. Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my diatribe and for holding up your share of the "fan club" so magnificently. You needn't bow to me for anything but rather consider me to be just another squirrel trying to get a nut or a nut with the brain of a squirrel or whatever... Oh sweet you...
Glowingly yours Beth, I remain, just Eddie...
Primal_r
hey!
look at my favorite tilers...

Actually. The reason is quite simple - I've seen a lot of your tiles getting to low score and therefore voting "a little higher" just to compensate...
miskate
time for a non-proliferation treaty?
Hey Eddie,

I've been watching your tiling with interest, and it's great to see the way you have improved in leaps and bounds since you've been on the site, both in terms of fitting in with the rules of tiles and in general in your drawing skills. You've put a lot of effort into it, and that's cool.

But (and you knew it was coming), I just have one gripe. This is supposed to be a collaborative art project. There are entire sections on the newbies quilts, and now on the mainquilts, where every second tile seems to be yours.

I think it's time you slowed down, took a deep breath and started letting the other kids have a go with the nice shiny toys. At the top of each quilt you'll notice a figure for the average number of tiles contributed by each user to the quilt - maybe you should pay some attention to that number and try not to exceed it by *too* much. Of course, the figure is affected by a lot of people who only contribute one or two tiles, and I'm not saying you should limit yourself to that small a number, but just stop and think - if the average on a quilt is 4 and you've already submitted 15, maybe it's time to stop and wait for the next quilt to start. It can be frustrating I know - particularly on some of the smaller invite only quilts, but isn't it much more interesting when you don't have a clue what's hidden behind all those "coming soon" placeholders?

Maybe use some of that free time to work on an artwork all of your own - you've certainly developed some great skills and have a lot of good ideas that you could build on. Maybe we'll start to see your work appearing in the ice packs in the future?
miskate
time for a non-proliferation treaty?
Hey Eddie,

I've been watching your tiling with interest, and it's great to see the way you have improved in leaps and bounds since you've been on the site, both in terms of fitting in with the rules of tiles and in general in your drawing skills. You've put a lot of effort into it, and that's cool.

But (and you knew it was coming), I just have one gripe. This is supposed to be a collaborative art project. There are entire sections on the newbies quilts, and now on the mainquilts, where every second tile seems to be yours.

I think it's time you slowed down, took a deep breath and started letting the other kids have a go with the nice shiny toys. At the top of each quilt you'll notice a figure for the average number of tiles contributed by each user to the quilt - maybe you should pay some attention to that number and try not to exceed it by *too* much. Of course, the figure is affected by a lot of people who only contribute one or two tiles, and I'm not saying you should limit yourself to that small a number, but just stop and think - if the average on a quilt is 4 and you've already submitted 15, maybe it's time to stop and wait for the next quilt to start. It can be frustrating I know - particularly on some of the smaller invite only quilts, but isn't it much more interesting when you don't have a clue what's hidden behind all those "coming soon" placeholders?

Maybe use some of that free time to work on an artwork all of your own - you've certainly developed some great skills and have a lot of good ideas that you could build on. Maybe we'll start to see your work appearing in the ice packs in the future?
Kim
Re: time for a non-proliferation treaty?
I second the motion
LongIslandEddie
And baby makes three...
Nothing like a swift kick in the exhuberance to get them to see the obvious.
I've tried hooking potholders knitting,shadow puppets, bingo and yes, even Mah Jong but still, I'd rather tile than ***k. What you say is correct, timely and fair and although I simply adore tiling, right IS right. No one needs a treaty with Eddie because of all of the lessons that you guys (gals)have taught me, about how important the citizenship end of tiling is. I never find myself at odds with anyone unless odds are where they themselves want to be. Do you realize that now I'll be somewhat forced into cleaning the garage, raking the lawn and taking care of all of the things that have gotten broken between my first tile and this writing. Forgive my brutish manner here, in what often feels like a candy store out on the internet and like if tiles were candies, well I still wouldn't get enough! Christ, with the new man that you're making of me, I'll probably start washing the dishes for that woman who was just waiting for a memo like yours to reach my desktop... Tell me, how will I keep the silverware free of those nasty water spots?
With warmth and calculated wisdom, I remain, Eddie M.
miskate
Re: And baby makes three...
aaah, the joys of procrastination. I'm the same - I did a lot of tiles when I should have been working when I first found this site :)

And there's a wonderful product called "Silvo" available here - not sure if you have it in the states (bound to be something similar if not) which is excellent for fixing up tarnished silver...
LongIslandEddie
Perhaps you misunderstood me...
Caitlin,
I'd take your recommendation on the "Silvo" if I were dealing with genuine silver. What we have here, although polished up to a fine lustre, is, I believe some reconstituted scrap steel that some poor and underpaid devil, crafted behind his hut over there or wherever else we get most of our household utensils. But as soon as the butler get's in, I'll send him down to Benneton's and he shall pick me up a bottle or two...

Oh, and did you REALLY think that I'd be reduced to doing dishes? Well....
miskate
Re: Perhaps you misunderstood me...
hey, dishes are a worthy pasttime for those of us who lack servants and dishwashing machines.
Kim
Re: Re: Perhaps you misunderstood me...
yeah, but once you have a husband you shouldn't have to do it anymore.
Mystety user
don't retire!
I'd like to thank you Eddie for being friendly and making me feel welcome. Also your tiles kick ass. I'm not much for words, so hopefully I'll see you on the next quilt! bye
LongIslandEddie
Re: don't retire!
Greg,
I left you a message on Syzygy's tile, the one where you mentioned not being able to see the knots quilt. Go read it! Let me just state that this is NOT my retirement dinner, just a reshuffling of priorities... Best to you, Eddie...
Primal_r
Re: Re: don't retire!
(by reading this message you agree to the terms stated in the disclaimer at the bottom of the message)
... I could just type "wow" in response to that mega message you posted on gregs side... instead of writing all this mumbo-jumbo adressed to you on his page, I moved it here. And I put it under this thread to ensure you get that beloved e-mail "someone replied to your post!" ...

now, let me just start by saying I'm touched of knowing I've done a positive impact on you Ed, it feels really nice knowing you like my art and consider me a great person//artist. You're pretty skilled yourself actually...

okay, so second (to complain some...) I saw you mentioned jito in the "just getting warm" section... Actually, he was here for a pretty long time before retiring (or atleast temporarily stopping for a long time). At first he had all them spikes out, not being able to take critique but most of all, having difficulties with english - misunderstanding us all and all of that.

well, enough of jito....

so. how 'bout you? I see you've cut down on tiling some, but to which degree?
Whoever it was saying you did too many tiles before was actually right, but don't go doing too FEW tiles now! ...

Everybody that starts with tiles "falls in love" with it. They bash out piles of tiles and then slowly or abruptly stop. Some never return after the "love" period, and some become regulars and do a tile now and then...

I hope you're not planning on stopping.

well. I gotta sleep now. it 05:31 and it's my girlfriends birthday tomorrow (or today actually) and I gotta get up early and buy her a gift... be well...

(oh, disclaimer, nothing stated in this message can be used against me, ever!)
jito
Re: Re: Re: don't retire!
" misunderstanding us "
you are "the" voice for anyone here?
wow you impress me...
also who can understand stuff he is not involved in:p

end of transmission.
Primal_r
Re: Re: Re: Re: don't retire!
huh. What's that supposed to mean? .. That was like a year ago...
It's not like a negative remark to say that you misunderstod us. Because you did, and it resultet in you being angry about things that wasn't even meant that way. Nobody blames you for not talking fluent english, just like I hope you don't blame anyone for not talking fluent french or swahili. Maybe you don't remember all of this, but I do.
jito
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: don't tralalala
it wasn't about talk or not a good english
the problem whas different.
and u wasn't involved in.

for me it is not very cool from you
to say things about stories u aren't involved in
where u wasn't even concerned.
i mean
you wasn't even HERE when it happend.
and a little part of the story
was in a "private window" so...

you are reducing all what happend
in a problem of langage ,and it isn't.


primal:
"and it resultet in you being angry about things
that wasn't even meant that way"
wrong.
you can't know what happend because u wasn't here...
and also you can't and none! here have the perfect
objectivity
that slothy haves so... :D


ps:so possibly we aren't talking of the same story.

Primal_r
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: don't tralalala
yeah, probably it's about different stories then, the story I was referring to occured like a year ago and had to do with you getting angry because you tought we insulted your art and it was all just misunderstandings...
jito
hey
where are you?
come back
i love your tiles ^_^
root88
duckets
W/B. Time for you to start spending some of those hard earned coins(32!). A new feature we came up with in your absence. Hope you enjoy it!
Zoggles
Many thanks...
...for the coin, I feel honoured and privileged. :)

-Z-
Hjohan
Thanks for the coin
It was my first one, and I feel really honored! Now that I'm free from the noob tile I'm gonna start rockin! *lol* Well, see ya bro, and thanks again!
LongIslandEddie
Re: Thanks for the coin
Don't thank me, pat yourself on the back. I gave you a coin because I was impressed with your artwork. Isn't that what we came for? To have others tell us how really good we are? Sure it is. it's the reason why we stay here and create tiles at ice.org.....
I came here almost a year ago, cocky, belligerant and full of piss and vinegar. Once I had determined that I was the worlds best artist, I set my sights on creating quantities of work and decided not to get caught up in the quality factor. I'll always be beholdened to the hardnosed artists here who served to set me straight about art. Maybe I can do a few bitmaps but mostly I like to find a home in controversy, to step to a different drummer, to allow eccentricity to dominate my personality. Not by your request nor at your behest but best as I naturally am, ready for anything...
I've given away just about all of my coins at this point. Accumulating these novel but sterile coins is great but they still cannot buy credentials. What fun is having gold if you cannot give it away? I looked deeply at your artwork and I was impressed by your ability, that's why I gave you a coin. I could give a shit less for and about kissing your asses. God knows that I can't get along with Judy Schmidt but still I must laud her abilities in Photoshop. Some of you have taught me lessons in pixels but Gecky has given me lessons in everything from citizenship to smudge tools! I keep her on a list of emulatable yet adversarial members of the greatest bitmap jamboree here on the internet!
My all time favorite personality here is Greg. Greg is a great artistic panorama, a compendium of technique and approach. Greg has always been a rising star here and I can only attribute this to his love of the software and his keen sense of artistic quality. I could not call him the best here but he's a strong contender for the title. Others would be those whom I've given my coins to, a select bunch of real workers who have impressed me to the point that I had to reach out to them and repay the efforts that they've all made to incite each of us to work harder if we want to become better as artists as well as people.
How nice it was to find that you cared enough to return here and to acknowledge the gesture that I made, the pausing of my busy lfe, long enough to commend you for your accomplishments here. Let me be foremost among those who teach you that praise IS essential, a very necessary ingredient to those who reach for perfection. Finding this website was truly a blessing........ I'm Eddie and for tonight, I'm gone.........
maxetormer
Re: Re: Thanks for the coin
hell you know how to write!!!! :) impresive speech:)
raganaga
WOW Eddie
i still consider myself a newbie and i'm still trying to catch up on a lot of the previous quilts to see what happened.
i gotta say you guys were really hot on "Return of the Mainquilters"... and as i studied it just now i kept repeating "wow that's a cool tile, who did that one? hmmm Long Island Eddie... wow that's a cool tile, who did that one? hmmm Long Island Eddie... wow that's a cool tile, who did that one? hmmm Long Island Eddie..."

i'm a little late , since i wasn't around then, but great work on that quilt man!!!

peace
Mystety user
Re: WOW Eddie
that quilt rules!!
hahaha
Primal_r
...
You've got 400 postings now...

I believe that you're the one with the biggest sum of text written on tiles.ice.org ... So henceforth, thou shalt be called... Ed "Big Mouth" Martin... =) ... Or something ... Well... Have a nice day friend. =)

Ps. Why don't you start to frequent irc.ice.org #tiles ?
LongIslandEddie
Re: Hi Oskar.......
Hey guy, you've got over 600 posts yourself! Posting comments is almost as much fun as tiling and sometimes I feel like painting my pictures in words instead of pixels. I am sure that most of the regulars here have made a determination about me and my big mouth but I should have known that I wouldn't escape your notice!
I'm glad to see that you are still active here and that you took the time to stop over at my page. I don't have too much time anymore for tiling because I've found a great job and it requires alot of my time to keep on top of things.
Be well Oskar, I'll drop in from time to time and view all of the great tilers here. I really don't know how to connect with irc.ice.org#tiles, don't even know what it is about and if there is someone out there who will let me know about getting there or participating, I'd be glad to come by.
Kind Regards, Eddie
MojoChiba
IRC #tiles chat
I really don't know how to connect with irc.ice.org#tiles, don't even know what it is about

irc.ice.org #tiles is a chat room. To get connected you'll need an IRC client such as mIRC. Once you have a client installed, connect to the server irc.ice.org (the default port is 6667). Once connected to the server, type /join #tiles into the input line and it will place you into the #tiles room with us.
maxetormer
thanks :)
Oh my godness man!!!! i am so freaking honored for your commet o great master of tiling:) my goodnes u have been here for so long time, i am been here so little time.... that i am really honored and extremely happy for this comment of encoragment of a veteran tiler like your self, i only hope to have the nerver to be as good as u, and to be able to stay here at least has haf time as you have:)

really thanks so much for the comment :) :D

bw i hope i writed the above text in the rigth way english is not my primal lenguage (i speak spanish), so i hope i have gotten the text ok :)
Mystety user
thank you Eddie
I suppose I should get to work, and stop spending so much time here :)
maxetormer
thanks...:D
...for the good words of ecourangment, Eddie, i am really happy to know that u have a good estable work.
I think this is the best thing of the world, i always belived that feeling that one is makeing something usefull is the greatest thing in the world (that is why i love to work darn i love my work it make me feel alive :) :D

i hope to see some tiles of u from time to time so that the newbies can always see who ruled and still rules in the tiling world :)

bw as aways, my birth lenguage is not english, so i am sorry if i expresed anything wrong in gramatics or semantics

:) peace :D
raganaga
ho
Eddie 8^}
{{sPaz}}
Hey Eddie
Welcome back. I dig your work.
Can't wait to see what you're going to do next :)
maxetormer
Re: Hey Eddie
hi here too =) nice to see ya around man =)