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This tile is from Mainquilters 26: I, Robot


Comment: Isaac Was the first man to EVER say Robitics!
Checked out at: October 18, 2003
Checked in at: October 18, 2003
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TeXeL
Wow!
cool tile, 5 from me :). Just a little detail: I don't like lens flare effect here...
mruser
Re: Wow!
This is the beginning of good feedback! If you could have told him why you didn't like it in the same tone as the beginning of your comment he would have walked away from this knowing something. And it would have been a learning thing as opposed to being shamed for his work like some posts I have seen.
NetCritter
Re: Re: Wow!
Geezus... I haven't seen you actually provide any useful feedback at all lately (if ever). All you do is reply to the posters about their posts and bitch about what people have said to you. You've made 2 comments here so far, but neither are aimed towards the tile or the artist.
mruser
Re: Re: Re: Wow!
"I think it was a good use of the lens flare (it's personal taste thing) Part of being really proficent in the use of Adobe or any other software is the masterey of all of it;s features. Drawing digitally includes the use of filters as well as drawing. So i think that you (like me) should keep learning the features and continue( as everyone) should the practice of our basic drawing skills. "

I believe this is a comment is it not? This was the first comment I made about the tile the other two comments were 1. for someone providing feedback that wasn't demeaning and 2. for someone being rude and demeaning. It's all good to not like the lens flare but there are ways to tell someone something without it being pissy witch is the only thing I have ever been bitched about.
NetCritter
Re: Re: Re: Re: Wow!
Well by golly, that is a reply! However, it wasn't showing up when I typed my reply. There were only 4 replies on the page, Tex's original, your reply to him, nickel's reply and your reply to him. But then the tile wasn't visible right after I posted either so maybe that's why I didn't see it. But even after seeing your reply, I still hold to my original comment. Encouraging the practice of blatently obvious filter usage isn't exactly helpful. Are you trying to get him an assbeating or what?

Wait, this is Ed we're talking about. Maybe he deserves it... j/k
TeXeL
Re: Re: Wow!
errrrrrrrmmmmmm..... mruser, with my little English skills, I'm not sure if you are talking to me, and if you are doing it, not sure if you are telling me if you liked my comment or not... it is fun, I've readed it 4 times and I don't understand it yet :) In any case, even if I think the correct use of software is completely ok, and love a good use of it, in this case, what I don't like is that a lens flare is an "emulation" of what happens in a camera, complex refractions, light dispersion and other light things in the camera optics. Well, the thing is, that photoshop for example, what renders is as if the area you are working is a whole photo in a camera. So, later, in the quilt, it uses to get incoherent that flares, because the quilt is much bigger than a tile. And also, for example, in this concrete image, I think that circle of higher intensity in the main flare, is not good looking, not for me at least. I prefer much more plain flares. And also, the surfice of the head should reflect (no problem if the surfice is reflexive or not) that light (I suppose it is like a sun), at least a bit, to get a coherence between layers. So, for me, since that circle and the ausence of reflection, I think the flare in this tile is a bit out of the tile, I mean, does not has the same style, does not look coherent in the tile, not sure if I explain ok. Well, but it is not bad enough anyway. About the colors, I think the color of the flare is ok with the whole tile. And for the composition is good also. So, that is why I voted 5 and I said I didn't liked it... this is so long to explain, and it is just my very subjetive thinking, not even sure if all what I said is correct or true... :)
nickel
uggg...
ok, lets all get this straight.

lens flares = tacky
lens flares = ugly
lens flares = difficult to blend

lens flares are something that happens in photography when the lens of a camera catches a very bright light. they are something that photographers usually try to avoid. why adobe decided to put something in their software to create them on purpose is beyond me.

the boba fett thing you drew looks great, so i can say i like the tile other then the part with a big lens flare. my suggestion is that you concentrate more on drawing and less on filters.
mruser
Re: uggg...
Dude
Better watch it I get labeled critical for providing feed back without using words like this. If that's the case what will "they" label you for being insulting? Ugly and tacky even though you meant the lens flare is likely to make him feel it refers to his work. As far as being difficult to blend why should that matter? Should people only submit work that is simple and easy to blend? HMMMMMMMM??????
nickel
Re: Re: uggg...
mruser, you get labeled critical because you have a nasty temper and you get offended anytime anyone gives you advice. when it comes to lens flares, there is nothing to master. lens flares are ugly, plain and simple. it is my personal opinion that filters are appropriate to use in design work, but not in art work. not all filters are bad, but they are most definitely NOT artistic. they have their place. as for your last comment, people should submit borders that are challenging, not difficult.
mruser
Re: Re: Re: uggg...
No! I don't get offended by feedback just rude comments like the one you made here. And any creative tool used creatively is artistic. It's the use of the tool and how they apply it. Point in case the program you use to create digital images. A lot of people don't consider it real art. It's not afterall something you have painted using oil or water colors.
mruser
Nicely done!
I think it was a good use of the lens flare (it's personal taste thing) Part of being really proficent in the use of Adobe or any other software is the masterey of all of it;s features. Drawing digitally includes the use of filters as well as drawing. So i think that you (like me) should keep learning the features and continue( as everyone) should the practice of our basic drawing skills. When your doing oils or acrylics ya might find (like I do) that the lens flare is'nt always needed! :)
NetCritter
Hiya Ed
Long time no see.

When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought this was Batman. Now I see it isn't but... is he crosseyed?

BTW, nice lens flare.
raganaga
Re: Hiya Ed
XDD
madhatterx
Re: Hiya Ed
Thanks, just got back online here. I opened a new studio for tattoo`s and wanted to get some time in on adobe. I know (Ill never hear the end of the flair). Good to hear from you too (-:
root88
flares
I hate flares as well. It just makes it seem like the artist is being lazy. Take a whole minute and use a brush to draw some sparkles if you want them that badly. The very least this artist could have done would be to match the hue of the flare to the color scheme of the rest of the tile. Also, the flare looks like it is supposed to be a star (a light source), I would have made some light come over the characters right shoulder instead of that being the dark area.

The suggestion of "mastering" the lens flare actually made me laugh out loud. Mastering the lens flare takes a long as finding it in the filters list.
mruser
Re: flares
Does anyone really understand the English language here or what? The comment was mastery of all of it's features not "lens flares". Lens flares would certainly full in that heading but if I meant specifically "lens flares" I would have said mastery of lens flares". The only I really get a good chukle about on this site is the gross misiterpretation of comments and the inabiltiy of people to take things in the context in which they are written. I still say it's a good tile.
nickel
Re: Re: flares
mruser, there is no such things as mastering the filters. you either know how to use them, or you don't. i would say that there are some good used for them, but not in art. also, take a midol. XP
NetCritter
Re: Re: flares
Well since you asked the question, you do realize that English isn't the primary language spoken by quite a few of the people on this site, right? And even I, as a native English speaker, have some trouble deciphering typos, backasswards sentence structure and using one word in place of another, i.e. 'full' instead of 'fill'. Actually, I had quite a 'chukle' myself while I was trying to figure this out: "The only I really get a good chukle". Huh?
nickel
Re: Re: Re: flares
lol! :D
mruser
Re: Re: Re: flares
How like you to focus on a typo and then continue to exactly what was said by taking it completely out of context. So the whole point about adherence to the rules of the forum was lost and it remains OK to be rude. Fine!! I'll take this lesson to heart when providing feedback in the future.
NetCritter
Re: Re: Re: Re: flares
And how like YOU to not be able to take what you dish out AND to totally miss the point. You are much to sensitive. You think that was rude? For heaven's sake, that wasn't rude! My giving you the finger, Now THAT would be rude. Why don't you just close your eyes and find a happy place?

Where's that Ignore Member button I requested?

nickel
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: flares
LOL!! XD
madhatterx
Thank you for the feedback
Thank you for the feedback everyone. I use it to improve my use of adobe and other programs. I do use the flairs sometimes when its better to take the time to make them yourself, but I think I was running out of time, and I wanted to start a space feel to the quilt.

Thank you again all
Duracel
Well
as many people say "Lens Flares are an absolut NoNo" :D

Of course they are not, but i'd like to say if its easy to identify a filter in the finished piece then its not good at all.
So the effect of a 'filter which existence as a filter is eyecathing'(so that you have to think "oh, there is *this special filter*") is cathing the eye away from the picture as a picture.
So a filter is not bad at all if the person dont know about it as a filter - but the lensflare is the most known and most obviously filter so most time most people (especially around here) cannot see it not as a filter.

And the thing a filter is not as hard to handle - especially if you just use it in a pure way - dont make it attractive just to be a filter nor filters are in any way a question of style as i.e. a brushstroke. So there is nothing interesting in them except how the look like; and how the look like is no more appealing to people have seen this filter thousand times yet.

Still any questions?
Duracel
Edit:
(eye)cathing => (eye)catching